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John: What goes, AADOM Nation? Thanks for tuning in to a different episode right here on AADOM Radio.

So, we’re going to maintain this AADOM Influencer collection going. We had the chance to focus on a number of of the AADOM influencers. Heather obtained to talk with them and form of have them share their tales to make use of. Clearly, it’s a program that’s been crucial to the AADOM workforce.

There appears to be, not less than there are with these six people, a gaggle of individuals which were part of AADOM in some type or trend over time, and simply we’re very excited and AADOM has been honored to have these people get the phrase out about AADOM, form of share the worth of it and all of that, and what have you ever.

So, as we speak’s visitor—I’m very excited to be with Andre Shirdan. How are you doing, Andre?

Andre: I’m doing good. Good to see you.

John: You as properly. And, , for the prior certainly one of these, Andre, Heather form of simply obtained in and began to have everyone share their story. So perhaps that’s an excellent place to begin. I’m going to have you ever get began after which we’ll simply form of lead via a bit of bit about what you’ve finished in dentistry and, most significantly, your story.

Andre’s Path to Dentistry

Andre: Effectively, my path to dentistry is like lots of people I obtained tricked into being in dentistry. My dentist married my sister and it grew to become a household enterprise. And he requested me to journey with him to a CE occasion, which I had no concept what we had been going to be doing.

We wound up at a periosurgery course. I registered for the course as a dentist. That they had no concept that I wasn’t a dentist. So, I’m in full scrubs and doing osteosurgery.

And once more, by no means spent a day in dentistry apart from coming in to have my common checkups. And I accomplished the osteosurgery course, obtained licensed to do osteosurgery from an organization known as Gore-Tex.

I stop my job and went to work with my brother-in regulation and realized all the pieces I might probably study from the most effective people in dentistry. You recognize, obtained on the cellphone with individuals who now are simply the gods of dentistry. You recognize, Linda Miles–I known as her. You recognize, Tom Limoli–I known as him. You recognize, these people who I noticed in magazines. I had no concept that you simply weren’t allowed to simply decide up the cellphone and name these individuals.

So, I did it and constructed relationships. You recognize, from there, I’ve been in dentistry 40 years now. So, I constructed relationships with these people. And after about 5 years of working within the apply, began serving to a few of my brother-in-law’s buddies who had been dentists with their companies.

So, utilizing what I realized earlier than I got here into dentistry, coaching via Disney, via Ritz Carlton, actually excessive finish customer support gross sales—utilizing what I realized exterior of dentistry to construct protocols, processes for therapy plan acceptance for periodontal protocols for workers coaching—that’s what I did.

I used that to construct about 4 consulting firms till 2002 once I left the trade for a short while and took a while off to work exterior of dentistry. Got here again in 2005 and went to work for Patterson Dental, implementing know-how in places of work.

And that changed into serving to individuals with software program integration and digital X-rays and stuff like that. And I retired from Patterson in 2016, and now I do that as a mission. That is actually, since 2016, this has been my mission to offer again into dentistry the issues that dentistry gave to me. I imply, it’s been an fascinating street.

John: You recognize, there are a number of us, Andre, as , that get out and we current in entrance of individuals in dentistry and we have now to share with them that we’re not a dentist, we don’t play one on TV. However then listening to you speak about that story and the coaching that you simply went via, like, you’re a little bit totally different than most of us that actually.

You recognize, speak about dentistry, however haven’t been doing that. So, I really like that a part of it.

I’d like to have you ever share—are you able to simply speak a bit of bit about, form of the early days, like what was it about this trade? I imply, clearly, that’s an important story to return in, like, , through household. However what was it in regards to the early days that actually form of, , obtained you enthusiastic about, , the work that you simply had been going to do.

After which the second a part of that’s did you see your self staying on this trade so long as you could have been.

Getting Excited About Dentistry

Andre: I actually didn’t. I at all times thought I’d return into doing one thing within the trend trade, into gross sales, that form of stuff. You recognize, it was truthfully my brother-in-law, the dentist I labored for—his ardour for dentistry. He was a man who, , we did all the pieces within the workplace from, , massive method ortho—, bonding and bracketing ortho—up osteosurgery, free gingival graft, in a basic apply.

We even did one per week the place we did IV sedation and knocked out sufferers and did full mouth rehabs. And we’re speaking in regards to the late 80s, early 90s. So, , it was totally different then, however we had been performing some issues, , that now I take a look at people who find themselves doing sleep apnea, individuals had been doing TMD—we did that, , approach again then.

However I simply had a health care provider who was so concerned. He beloved dentistry a lot that I obtained hooked. I imply, there wasn’t a process that he didn’t say, “Go together with me to the CE and also you’ll learn to do the process,” or he’d come again and present me the method, , on tooth mounted in plaster or no matter.

Once I realized rotary endo, we did it collectively, ? Nevertheless it gave me a distinct view of dentistry. Such as you mentioned, now I understood the coding. I understood the process. I understood the timeline.

I imply, so many individuals that I work with, entrance workplace people, , who don’t perceive the timeline of how lengthy it takes anesthesia to take. How lengthy does that endo take? You recognize, to go actually loopy, what does tissue odor like on an endo file?

I imply, I needed to study that. So, I understood precisely the timeline it took to do the process, which then once I did accelerated hygiene, or if I did, , any form of scheduling method, I knew the way it labored from the supplier facet. It gave me empathy, which was a distinct standpoint than I had in some other trade.

I understood it from begin to end, ?

John: Yeah. You recognize, it’s fascinating. As so properly, dentistry is a type of professions the place in case you do have the chance to spend time within the dental apply and perceive a number of the issues that you simply spoke about, I actually do imagine, Andre, offers you a bonus. Whether or not or not it’s, , you bought tools otherwise you labored as a marketing consultant otherwise you educated or no matter it could be. Like a number of the enterprise techniques.

Such as you mentioned—sharing with the groups and so they can perceive that you simply knew and perceive what they went via in a every day foundation actually makes an enormous distinction. And I’m certain, , as we’ll get into a short while, how that was capable of, , aid you make actual impression with those who you labored with.

Andre: Effectively, , in doing each process,  working chair facet—I imply, I’ve nice respect for, , what our dental assistants do, , they’re the type of the spine of the apply in an important respect.

You recognize, I spent a number of time sitting chair-side and, , serving to 4 handed dentistry with my physician. Understanding what they went via in my years coaching for a Schick, , understanding what it took to take a full collection as a entrance workplace individual, as an admin individual.

You recognize, I obtained to know how all of these issues performed out, how lengthy it truly takes to take a full collection, . And never simply from the ebook perspective.

You recognize, understanding that every individual has a distinct, , dynamic. The older affected person who’s going to wish to speak to you for 20 minutes about their grandchildren whilst you’re attempting to place a middle of their mouth, ?

Understanding these issues aid you to have the ability to perceive the opposite half. However on the flip facet, on the enterprise facet of issues, personally having to purchase a chair—this actually out of my very own checking account having to purchase a chair when my brother-in-law the dentist couldn’t afford to do it as a result of he was up to now in debt on the time.

For me having to purchase a $10, 000 chair once I’m used to Amazon and having a chair delivered for a pair hundred bucks—It actually made me perceive the enterprise of dentistry otherwise, ?

And that’s not one thing that lots of people there, and I’m going again to the phrase empathy. You recognize, we sympathize for the physician whose chair breaks down, however only a few individuals on the entrance workplace or the admin facet of issues has ever had to purchase a chair.

And I take into consideration what number of occasions I’ve gone in places of work and someone has thrown away a handpiece and it was like, “Oh, yeah, sorry.”

However when you need to purchase a $400, $500 handpiece out of your individual pocket—and that’s actually what it comes all the way down to typically in enterprise—it adjustments the way in which you see the apply and it adjustments the way in which you see the enterprise of dentistry lots.

John: You recognize, it’s fascinating. You recognize, so properly, there are lots of, many, many individuals in a number of totally different capability in dentistry that can convey a brand new know-how or a brand new system.

And also you’ll hear them speak about how that is going to avoid wasting you time, ,  how that is going to avoid wasting you cash. And once more, I feel one of many issues that’s at all times gone to my head, not less than once I’ve ever, , spoke about that or spoke to someone to that’s like, “Okay, now when that dental apply saves that point and saves that cash, what are they going to do with it, proper?”

And I feel to your level, it’s like, except you actually perceive the impression that that has, that additionally makes an enormous distinction, proper? Whether or not you’re, you’re someone that’s, , sharing with a apply, like how this new know-how or software program goes to avoid wasting them time, there positively is a component of actually understanding and having the ability to suggest to say, “Okay, in case you save this a lot time, might you do X or might you do Y, proper?”

And so, how did that aid you as you began to work at Patterson and actually form of understanding the internal workings of the apply than if you had been on, like, what I wish to name the opposite facet of the desk with the work that you simply did at Patterson?

The Advantages of Understanding All Points of a Dental Observe

Andre: Yeah, properly, , one of many issues is once I first began, one of many instruments that I had to have the ability to speak to places of work about is, is CAD/CAM, CEREC, ? And on the time, we’re speaking in regards to the early days of CEREC, , it was making tooth with Lego bricks. I imply, it was actually that, .

And to persuade someone to make a $100, 000 funding in a device that as a techie, I obtained 100%. However to include that after which to vary the dynamic of the workflow, , that that hour and a half crown now changed into two and a half hours of studying method and that form of stuff.

To make that funding, you needed to perceive what drove the supplier. You recognize, the very first thing I ever did once I walked into dental places of work in my gross sales capability and my consulting capability, was to stroll in and say, “What do you love to do exterior the apply?”

You recognize, is there an image on the wall of pebble Seaside? You recognize, is there a Ferrari image? Are there horses up there on the wall? Are your kids’s photographs in your wall within the workplace?

What do you wish to spend time doing exterior of dentistry? You recognize, now if there’s an image of L.D. Black, , the professor of dentistry on the wall, that’s an entire totally different story. We’re going to speak about that one.

However , if the entire world is about golf or is about horse using or is about going to take our boat out, how’s this device going to get you in your boat? How’s this device going to get you to experience your horses? How’s that device going to get you to play at pebble this 12 months? These are the form of issues that I checked out and attempting to determine easy methods to make these two issues work collectively.

You recognize, the funding within the device, the funding in CE, the funding in time away from chairside therapy. What’s it going to consequence? How are we going to steadiness these two issues?

And that’s an enormous a part of what I’ve been doing for all these years.

John: Are you able to speak a bit of bit about—I’d wish to make the parallel between your journey in dentistry and what you could have noticed regarding the journey of the workplace supervisor.

I imply, I began in dentistry 20 years in the past. And as I shared with Heather, like I bought NK handpieces to dental practices in California. And I realized early on that constructing an important relationship with the workplace supervisor, though, , I actually needed to speak to the dentist and the workforce or no matter, simply because I knew, or not less than what I had understood as a beginner in dentistry, that they had been those that will truly make that purchasing resolution.

However by some means, a way, I by accident found out that it was nice to construct a relationship with the workplace supervisor. However, are you able to speak in regards to the development of—I imply, it’s at all times been an necessary place within the apply, however I really feel like now we’re at a spot, Andre, the place like, lastly, it’s acknowledged how worthwhile.

Simply curious in your ideas on this, form of, along with your journey.

Appreciating the Key Position of the Dental Workplace Supervisor

Andre: Effectively, it’s actually humorous as a result of once I began, I at all times thought of what my function on the entrance desk was. I at all times thought of it as I used to be like a gatekeeper, . And I’d shield my physician from the salespeople who got here in. I’d shield my physician from working late. I’d shield my physician from this stuff.

After which as I began stepping out of the function, I spotted a few of these issues I protected my physician from might have been nice issues for my physician.

I say this on a regular basis and other people have heard me say this 1,000,000 occasions in my seminars. If the sky had opened and this hand had come down for my physician to say, “That is the day I’m bringing you up into the heavens,” I’d have gone, “Completely not. We’ve obtained a full schedule of sufferers this afternoon. There is no such thing as a approach that’s going to occur.”

You recognize, and for a lighter approach, if the individuals had are available in from Writer’s Clearinghouse with that massive examine for my physician, I’d have finished the identical factor. Like, there’s no approach he can do that as we speak. Maintain that $10 million till Friday at 5:00 pm.

And I spotted that I protected him from good, however I additionally protected him from unhealthy. And I feel what’s taking place now could be extra persons are turning into workplace managers who see the world otherwise.

It’s not simply the gatekeeper. It’s a greater image. We’re working in a distinct setting. We’re taking over authorities laws. We’re taking over payroll info and personnel points.

It was that the physician would tackle a number of that. And now it’s falling extra on the workplace supervisor, the admin facet of issues. The roles have modified an entire lot within the final 20 years.

And submit COVID, it’s even crazier as a result of we’ve had a number of transition on the entrance workplace the place we have now assistants who’ve moved into that place. We’ve had hygienists who’ve moved into that place. Spouses who’ve moved into that place newly.

So, the world has modified and I’ve seen a number of variations within the individuals I’ve talked to within the final 5 years since COVID. I’ve seen 35 years of a method after which the final 5 years it’s shifted one other approach.

So, it’s dramatically altering and it’s truly nice to see some new blood.

John: So, I bumped into you briefly this previous AADOM convention in Vegas. We had been each form of working round doing our issues and assembly individuals.

What’s it like so that you can go to that convention now? I imply, talking of how issues have modified within the final 5 years and also you go there and once more, like, there’s simply—it’s form of like grand central station, proper, for workplace managers at a convention.

Persons are going to programs and speaking to firms and networking. However yeah, what’s that like? As you take a look at form of the place the trade has come from, however now to see such a profitable, fantastic place yearly for these workplace managers to attach.

The Significance of the Annual AADOM Convention

Andre: Effectively, I sit in a singular place in my life since you assume in 40 years, I’ve been in about two practices per week for the final 40 years. That’s form of what it’s like. I’d say I have to have that signal like McDonald’s, like billions and billions of served.

One of many issues I really like about AADOM is that is the creme de la crème of the workplace managers. These aren’t the individuals who simply punch a clock day-after-day. These are individuals who tackle a distinct stage of authority and thought. These are the people who find themselves taking continued schooling. They’re increasing what they’re doing.

It’s an exquisite factor. And that assembly, the final one in September was only a blast as a result of I obtained to see lots of people I’ve identified via the years. But additionally obtained to see them interacting with the distributors, the individuals who service us, however on the similar time, the questions that had been requested of the individuals who attended had been a bit of bit increased stage.

It wasn’t how a lot is your product? It was: right here’s a particular factor that I work on in my workplace every day, and I would like to unravel a particular drawback. It was a monetary drawback. It was right here’s what I’ve. Right here’s what I would like. And do you do that one factor?

And it had nothing to do with value, which was an exquisite factor to see. Though value is necessary.

Nevertheless it was necessary to see that folks had been in search of options and never simply ticking a field.

John: Yearly I’ll get an opportunity to spend a bit of little bit of time with an organization the place it was their first 12 months at convention and so they’ll come as much as me and it’s virtually like verbatim. It’s virtually like I might say to them, “Okay, I feel I do know what you’re going to say, proper?”

I’ll ask him the way it’s going. And a number of occasions it’s, “Wow!”

And to your level, I by no means would have anticipated that we might have had such nice questions, , about our firm, which is usually a little odd for firms that perhaps over time have gone to various kinds of reveals the place you’re hoping that folks will come speak to you.

So, it’s a distinct sort of vitality. It’s virtually such as you’re attempting to drag them in. No pull obligatory, proper, relating to workplace managers and AADOM and the convention. Such as you talked about, they are surely .

And I really like the purpose that you simply make, which is: it’s questions on how do you clear up an issue? Which, as , if you’re an organization, that’s actually what you need, proper? I imply, the options and advantages, no matter.

However you actually wish to get to the candy spot, which is how can we aid you? And once they ask these questions, it goes a great distance.

Andre: Yeah, it does. I seek the advice of for lots of those third-party software program firms and provides them recommendation. And he fascinating factor is I at all times inform them what I hear. And that’s a fantastic thing about what I do.

I’ve 17, 000 individuals in my Fb group. I’ve 300 questions a day that come to me. And I can type of filter these questions all the way down to say, “Listed below are the issues that we face every day. Remedy these issues, and also you’ve obtained a product that everyone will wish to purchase.”

John: Are you able to speak a bit of bit about—a dentist is listening to this. She or he has heard of AADOM however they’re attempting to form of perceive the way it might be worthwhile for his or her workplace supervisor.

What would you say to them with what you’ve realized, and definitely along with your expertise?

Be taught How AADOM Can Assist You

Serving to Dentists Perceive the Worth of AADOM for Workplace Managers

Andre: Effectively, the worst half about being an admin individual in a dental workplace is you’re an Island and there’s actually no one you could bounce concepts off of apart from your fellow admin people. After which if you’re speaking to individuals inside the workplace, it simply turns into an echo chamber. It’s the identical noise.

However when you possibly can attain out to someone a state away and say, “Hey, John, we’re having an issue with cancellation.” You go, “You recognize what we’re too. Perhaps there’s one thing taking place within the trade.”

Or, “Are you aware X, Y, Z insurance coverage firm has been asking us for this,” or “I’m having a tough time with that.”

You now have compatriots. It’s not simply echo chambers of noise. It actually makes a distinction when you could have a gaggle that has info, however additionally they have assets to repair these issues. I assume it goes again to drawback fixing.

I feel one of many issues I really like most about AADOM—and I’ve been going to AADOM conferences for without end—is when individuals get collectively, it’s not only a gripe session. It’s not, “Oh, no one places gloves in operatory 4.”

It turns into, “Right here’s a much bigger image of issues that we have to take a look at and the way can we work collectively to repair this stuff?” And that’s the fantastic thing about the group altogether.

I simply want each physician knew that AADOM existed, and that’s form of what I pledged this 12 months to have the ability to do. I want the medical doctors would simply make this a part of the finances for CE for everyone within the workplace.

John: Yeah, , it’s fascinating. It’s like with all this pleasure and buzz round AI and I see an increasing number of individuals of their subject of experience eager to create their very own AI bots, I consider this alongside these strains, proper?

I’m a dentist. I’m a apply proprietor. And we have now to unravel an issue within the apply. And if I do know that my workplace supervisor has this community of folks that they will actually go join with the place it’s related, proper? Not simply let’s go, perhaps hope that we are able to discover the reply, however that they know that they will discover related info and quick. Such a worth, proper?

As a enterprise, I imply, I take into consideration that proper now as a enterprise proprietor. Folks that have labored for me the place they had been tremendous proactive once we had an issue, and so they had been already going out to their community to attempt to get a solution to return again and clear up it. Tremendous worthwhile!

Andre: Yeah. I’ve truly thought of easy methods to rebrand myself for 2025. And one of many issues I used to be enthusiastic about, it was simply as a joke, my firm’s known as The CREW Course of.

And I used to be enthusiastic about The CREW Course of HI, which is human intelligence, as a result of the wealth of information that all of us share is what drives AI. You recognize what? So typically HI is best than AI.

John: So, what are you enthusiastic about most? For everyone that’s listening to this. To workplace managers on the market and AADOM Nation, with so long as you’ve been in dentistry, however particularly your continued involvement in your Fb group and all of the suggestions that you simply get.

However if you look out at dentistry over the following couple of years, what are you most enthusiastic about?

The Way forward for Dentistry

Andre: I’ve to return to COVID. It was such a reset for everyone. And there have been about a few years the place we couldn’t discover workers and issues had been getting a bit of iffy and everyone was frightened about the way forward for dentistry. Is it going to be all DSO? Is it going to be this that or the opposite factor in each?

However I feel we’re settling again down. I feel we’re going to see a brand new revival. I feel what I noticed within the 80s with practices—I used to be round when the primary practices hit the million-dollar mark.

I’m seeing the place medical doctors are beginning to take what they realized in CE and switch that into a distinct view of dentistry. I’m actually enthusiastic about that.

I really like seeing places of work who’re specializing in facial aesthetics, on sleep apnea, on biologic dentistry. I’m a fan of area of interest. I’m a fan of seeing that persons are charged up about an concept, it doesn’t matter what different individuals may give it some thought.

I feel I find it irresistible when persons are charged about dentistry. Once they fall in love with dentistry, I fall in love with the enterprise of dentistry.

John: Yeah, and it actually does appear, I imply, within the final six months, I’ve had some conversations with people exterior of dentistry, simply folks that I’ve labored with in several industries. And it has been fairly thrilling if you share with them, or I share with them the time that I’ve spent and their response.

It does really feel like there’s a number of buzz exterior of dentistry, whether or not or not it’s an increasing number of dialog in regards to the oral systemic hyperlink and that lastly, like dentist and hygienist and dental groups are getting their due relating to being trustworthy about telling their sufferers that what occurs in your mouth impacts the remainder of your physique.

Together with the know-how, proper? I imply, there’s been such an enormous funding into know-how and dentistry, which is enjoyable for these of us who’ve been right here for some time.

Andre: One of many issues, , I really like wanting exterior of dentistry and simply strolling via a Walmart and seeing the toothbrushes on the wall. And that is simply how quirky I’m about these items.

Seeing the toothbrushes and so they’re not simply bristle on deal with. There’s know-how there. There’s ranges, there’s plastic, there’s rubber ideas and inside the comb. And realizing that persons are focusing extra on dentistry and residential care.

However clearly there’s a stage in case you take a look at, , QVC and see what number of dental merchandise there are there. Our sufferers dental IQ, which is what we labored on within the eighties, has come up. And which means it’s going to bounce again into the dental workplace too. So, it helps all the way in which round.

John: Yeah, no query.

So, I do know Heather and the AADOM workforce needed to additionally take this chance to have you ever share with everyone that’s listening to this a bit of bit about your work. And I feel, extra importantly, , what you do and the way they will study extra about you and all that good things.

The Advantages of The CREW Course of

Andre: Effectively, I run an organization known as The CREW Course of, and actually what my firm is all about is getting everyone within the workplace on the identical web page. So, the thought of crew is we’re all within the boat rowing, and in case you can’t row on the similar tempo, it’s time to get off, ?

So, workforce constructing finished a bit of otherwise. That’s an enormous a part of what I do. And since I’m retired, a number of what I do is giving again. It’s serving to individuals get extra out of their apply. If it’s one on one coaching with an workplace on know-how. If it’s me lecturing in regards to the Disney strategy to dentistry. That’s type of, everyone is aware of me because the Disney dentistry man.

It’s actually about discovering the core perception of the apply after which radiating that out to everyone within the apply.

It’s such as you run into someone and so they’re into the Zodiac, , and so they go, “Oh, you have to be a Gemini since you get alongside so properly with me.” Whenever you see that and so they imagine that, you possibly can see it of their face and also you recognize it.

And to enter an workplace and everyone within the workplace is singing from the identical hymnal is what I simply like to do. So, I do this via my seminars. I do it via my EagleSoft coaching. I do it via the Disney method trainings.

All of that’s to get everyone on the identical web page. And that’s all finished via The CREW Course of.

John: Effectively, and as higher than anyone, it’s one factor to say how necessary it’s for a dental apply and to everyone to be rowing collectively on the identical web page, however it’s a complete different factor to really execute it.

And never solely that, however as , do it for some time, proper? I imply, I really feel like there are groups that can go to a seminar. They’ll study a few issues right here and there. They’ll come again. They’ll get excited. However truly constructing a system and course of that replicates itself 12 months after 12 months after 12 months.

So, a lot more durable to do, I’m certain, than simply imagining it.

Andre: And a number of it’s as a result of we go to those seminars and we have now sprints to our subsequent seminar. And maintaining the stamina, that dash, is horrible when it actually must be a relay. It must be, , we’re doing this for a short while we have to cross off the management to the following individual, after which cross off the management to the following individual.

After which we have now this consistency the place as an alternative of—sorry, I converse in a number of analogies.

I really like the thought of a dolphin. You simply take these little breaths. And you then return down. After which a bit of breath. And most places of work work like whales, the place they’re taking this deep breath, nice productive day, after which they dive for hours. After which once they come again out, they simply are so spent that they must take this lengthy breath.

So we actually have to assume like dolphins and dwell that approach, and actually simply hold the momentum going so it’s a clean experience up and down as we go. Superior.

John: Superior. Effectively, we’ll be sure you put any hyperlinks and all of that so that everyone listening to this may study extra about you. However, whereas we nonetheless have you ever, what’s form of one of the simplest ways for them to study extra about what you’re doing?

Andre: Greatest web site is TheCREWprocess.com and, with that, all the pieces is accessible proper there. I’ve hyperlinks proper on my web site the place you possibly can textual content me, name me, ship me a message, Fb message, no matter, proper from my web site. The whole lot’s proper there.

John: Superior. Effectively, Andre, thanks a lot. At all times a pleasure to spend time with you.

And I do know, like I discussed, the AADOM workforce is basically enthusiastic about this Influencer program. And so, we look ahead to listening to from you extra as we proceed and transfer into 2025.

Andre: Thanks a lot.

John: Alright.